Comments on: Why is my government paying for drugs that France won’t touch? https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/ Marketing Ethics for the Easily Swayed Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Dr. Steve Parker https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-15846 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:41:53 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=6195#comment-15846 Carolyn —

I don’t think there are easy ways to quit smoking. Personally, I think the easiest way — for me if I were a smoker — would be to go to an island in the South Pacific (for a very long time) where there were no cigarettes and one could live off the coconuts, bananas, eat gifts from the sea, walk on the beach, and other pleasures. Short of that, it takes a lot of strategy.

I did have several clients who were natural hypnotic subjects, and they had the least difficult time. Haven’t read the book with the two basic rules. I think there are probably seven basic rules.
May go to the South Seas to write “The Seven Basic Rules to Stop Smoking Easily.”

steve

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-15830 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:34:49 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=6195#comment-15830 Yeah, I’ll get right on that meeting with Premier Clark for you…. I’m so glad you commented here – a friend who’s smoke-free for seven weeks now told me he’d read a book about an “easy way” to quit that had two basic rules: #1 – start thinking of yourself as a non-smoker, and #2 – quit moping about how hard it is to quit. Do you know this book?
Cheers,
C.

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By: Dr. Steve Parker https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-15825 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:09:09 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=6195#comment-15825 Carolyn:

For $25 million, more or less, I would be happy to help all your British Columbians stop smoking, using such old-fashioned techniques as listening, strategies for habit control, — and even cognitive therapy! Can you set up a meeting in Victoria with Ms. C. Clark to plan this?

(Actually, I used to do a lot of smoking cessation counseling — the main thing that doesn’t work is when people decide to use “will power”. The average smoker tries six or seven times until they are able to figure out their own right strategies. Given the known heart problems associated with Chantix, your B.C. government is a bit behind the curve… Have they trained with the FDA?)

Steve

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-15752 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 14:40:01 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=6195#comment-15752 Hello Dr. Joe – I’m guessing you might be in the minority compared to your physician-peers. As the Australian researchers mentioned here confirm: “The increasing medicalisation of smoking cessation implies that quitting must be pharmacologically or professionally mediated”.
Cheers,
C.

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By: Dr Joe https://ethicalnag.org/2011/08/07/france-pulls-varenicline-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-15745 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 11:59:26 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=6195#comment-15745 It has been shown (as you mention) that the best way to quit is to just quit!

Smoking is not a disease – it is a habit. The main reason people feel they need “help” is because they have been told they need pharmaceutical help.

I will not recommend the two stop smoking drugs as they are unnecessary and potentially harmful. Patches may not be needed but are at least fairly harmless. The highest rates of quitting smoking occurred in the 1970’s before people knew they needed help.

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