Comments on: Survivorship bias: when we focus only on success https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/ Marketing Ethics for the Easily Swayed Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Soshitech https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-116978 Mon, 30 Dec 2013 22:09:37 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-116978 […] Survivorship bias: when we focus only on success (ethicalnag.org) […]

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]]> By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-107857 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:03:19 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-107857 Thank you, Charlotte.

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]]> By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-107856 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:02:16 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-107856 Thanks for sharing your perspective here, QSx2.

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]]> By: Charlotte https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-107854 Mon, 02 Dec 2013 15:42:39 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-107854 I just wanted to take a moment to say that I really enjoy your blog(s). Many thanks.
Charlotte.

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]]> By: QSx2 https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-107313 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:37:44 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-107313 HI Carolyn— Truly glad you mentioned Pinktober and the rah-rah-rah cheerleading of “pink-clad survivors” as heroes. Its great they survived don’t get me wrong but that is only one small focus compared to those with metastatic breast cancer that Komen et al do NOT talk about — nothing cheerful about dying of BC mets — It’s a myth that screening is most important to survival—- there are at least 10 unique types of BC—- depends on which type a woman has— screening may help ID tumors may lead to overtreatment of tumors that will never be significant.

Helpful info here— very interesting. Thanx so much for this. — QSx2 in L.A.

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]]> By: SoshiTech https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106809 Fri, 29 Nov 2013 00:38:51 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106809 […] Survivorship bias: when we focus only on success (ethicalnag.org) […]

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]]> By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106773 Thu, 28 Nov 2013 21:24:32 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106773 Oh, that guy’s a keeper, Kathleen . . .🙂

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]]> By: Kathleen https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106768 Thu, 28 Nov 2013 20:47:31 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106768 Socially abandoned? Oh, so very frequent, as healthy people don’t like to hear about “downers” and that creates yet another dilemma for the struggling.

I knew that my now-husband was the one when I got a horrible knock-you-out-for-3-weeks flu. That was when he came over with groceries, made me orange juice, all the while he cleaned my kitchen and started a pot of chicken soup.

Until then, I had thought he was a great guy, but not “my type.” I promptly reevaluated my type.

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]]> By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106519 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 22:51:05 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106519 “Offer to clean their house” – awesome! You are my kind of friend! One of the most helpful experiences ever while recuperating at home from my heart attack was when friends would phone and say things like: “I’m at the grocery store – what can I pick up for you while I’m here?” instead of saying “Just let me know if there’s anything I can do for you”. Trust me, I’m NEVER going to call anybody and ask them to come over and change the kitty litter… See also: “You Look Great!” And Other Things You Should Never Say To Heart Patients“

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]]> By: Miep https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106496 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 21:46:10 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106496 Thanks, that’s good and the comments interesting as well. All this pressuring people to be upbeat is so alienating and misguided.

Being sick is a bad deal, why must we pressure people to act positive? I would think what a person wants to hear is “I am so, so sorry you’re having to deal with this” and then if you want to be supportive, offer to clean the person’s house or shop for her or otherwise identify stuff she really isn’t up to doing.

I hate to think of people being socially abandoned simply because their odds are bad though I expect it happens all the time.

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]]> By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2013/11/27/survivorship-bias/comment-page-1/#comment-106492 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 21:32:12 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=12650#comment-106492 Thank you Miep – those warfare medical metaphors are pervasive, aren’t they? Battling cancer, fighting bravely, winning the war on ___. More on this here.

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