Comments on: Smartphones make Top 10 Health Tech Hazards List https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/ Marketing Ethics for the Easily Swayed Wed, 05 Jun 2013 14:03:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: My Lymphoma Journey https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-49084 Tue, 20 Nov 2012 07:21:13 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-49084 […] Smartphones make Top 10 Health Tech Hazards List | The Ethical Nag. […]

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-49008 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:27:10 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-49008 In reply to Andrew.

Interesting you should ask: a number of them (nurses, mind you, not docs) came up to me after the talk and specifically thanked me for the reminder. We live in hope!

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By: Andrew https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-49007 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:02:23 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-49007 In reply to Carolyn Thomas.

I wonder how they reacted? Reminds me of one of the early scenes in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, when the surgeon, as he is closing the eyelid of the ‘locked in’ patient, talks about his ski weekend in St. Moritz!

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48997 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:55:37 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48997 In reply to Andrew.

“Problem is, in operating rooms, we are not awake to complain!”

Andrew, you are painfully correct! But even if we were awake, how many of us would have the temerity to raise a hand and request the doc/nurse to put away their phones?

I once spoke to a large audience of cardiology staff about women and heart attacks, and reminded them NOT to chat happily about their weekend plans, kids, politics, etc. over the bodies of the patients lying on the gurney beneath them as if we are merely pieces of meat on a slab – worse, INVISIBLE deaf pieces of meat on a slab! It’s about common courtesy.

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48996 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:51:29 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48996 In reply to Pager.

Sadly, I suspect you are 100% correct. Right now we have a number of older users who are not “digital natives” like younger health care workers are. They are our only hope in bringing common sense to the O.R.

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By: Andrew https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48973 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:01:29 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48973 Good piece. Dr. Ruth has the policy solution: just ban them in operating rooms and for other critical areas. May be harder to implement policy in other areas.

Problem is, in operating rooms, we are not awake to complain!

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By: Pager https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48910 Mon, 19 Nov 2012 05:24:37 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48910 Unless hospitals (and common sense) take over, prepare for healthcare providers to become even more distracted. We have an entire generation of kids who seem surgically attached to their mobile devices. Do we honestly expect that the same people who can’t take a short car ride or attend grandma’s funeral without being “connected” at all times, will be able to perform surgery that may take hours without their smartphones?

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48809 Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:59:43 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48809 In reply to Dr. Ruth Simkin.

Hello Dr. Ruth – why indeed? Kelly’s comment above illustrates the sheer stupidity of surgeons taking personal calls in mid-procedure. Unbelievable!

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By: Dr. Ruth Simkin https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48763 Sun, 18 Nov 2012 03:55:28 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48763 Why are phones even allowed in the ER? They should be banned. Always. It’s easy enough to set up a system where the surgeon can be reached in the OR without carrying a personal phone.

I think bringing a phone into the OR is disgusting, not to mention incredibly unhealthy.

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By: Carolyn Thomas https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48708 Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:32:25 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48708 In reply to Kelly.

He was “surprised”?!?! Are you KIDDING me? Isn’t there somebody you can report this guy to?

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By: Kelly https://ethicalnag.org/2012/11/17/smartphones-top-10-hazard-list/comment-page-1/#comment-48707 Sat, 17 Nov 2012 14:15:40 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=10336#comment-48707 A few weeks ago, I called a surgeon for an interview and he answered his cell phone – while he was mid-procedure. I was all kinds of horrified and suggested I call back when he wasn’t, you know, in the middle of SURGERY.

He was surprised but agreed. (Thankfully, when I called again, his nurse answered the phone and said he was busy. Ironically, I think he was busy in the lab, not with a patient.)

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