Comments on: How are hockey-playing goons the same as “puzzled” medical journal editors? https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/ Marketing Ethics for the Easily Swayed Fri, 26 Aug 2016 00:40:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Daphne Ng https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-19078 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:04:45 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-19078 “Reprint orders from this one ghostwritten Vioxx article brought in more than $697,000 in revenue for the NEJM. Medical journal editors who don’t want to bite the Big Pharma hand that feeds them must learn to hold their noses and accept this…”

BINGO. That’s the key. You CAN’T bite the hand that feeds you, especially if it means asking hard questions that might alienate Big Pharma. Thx for this, keep on raising the hard questions, maybe one of these gutless editors might develop a backbone one day.

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By: Luke Doane https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-11282 Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:15:57 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-11282 Could it possibly be that the NHL is finally getting serious about goons, given the concussion scandal going on now? On second thought….. maybe they’re just waiting for this to all blow over. They’re about as serious as those journal editors are, I guess.

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By: Rink Rat https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-9071 Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:43:39 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-9071 I play hockey 2xwk in a night league. I have discussed your comparison at practise with the guys. We all agree that we don’t deserve to be compared to these medical journal editors, who are faking being impartial ethical academics with integrity. We are not faking anything. We ARE goons. At least by night on the ice. πŸ™‚

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By: Chops https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-7155 Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:11:58 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-7155 It’s one thing for medical journal editors to be aware of the conflict of interest reports of study authors – but it’s not enough merely to list all the financial conflicts of interest at the end of a journal article. The obvious solution: DO NOT ACCEPT ANY TAINTED STUDIES FOR PUBLICATION. You’re right – editors obviously lack the will to tackle the problem.

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By: Larry K. https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-678 Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:00:54 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-678 Hey, very cool topic on the integrity of medical journal editors. I’m an instant fan, I have bookmarked your website. Thanks so much,
Larry.

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By: Jenn https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-604 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 11:09:42 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-604 I think it’s a bit of a stretch with this NHL hockey goon analogy. Playing hockey is nothing like editing a medical journal. Hockey players are regular common-sense guys who know the difference between a good call and a bad one. Apparently journal editors do not.

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By: Kola https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-457 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:59:42 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-457 I’m not a hockey fan so I was unaware of these brawling goons you have in canada. But I’ve become very aware of medical journal editors who for some reason are too spineless to get tough with drug companies and their hired help who submit these tainted journal articles.

Maybe you have it backwards – let’s hire some of your big, scary hockey brawlers to deal with Big Pharma !

Love your Ethical Nag blog. regards, K.

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By: Amanda https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-436 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:47:47 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-436 Excellent article.

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By: Smaal https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-431 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 17:56:41 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-431 Hi Carolyn

“…He cites a British study of 4,000 physicians that found 96% of them received money from drug companies, and yet β€œthe majority did not see this as a conflict of interest….”

And those research results illustrate exactly the issue here – that doctors have become so numb to this kind of conflict of interest reality that they no longer seem able to discern what is right and what is wrong about it.

I enjoy your interesting articles here. Keep up the good work!πŸ™‚

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By: Barnie https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-429 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:11:27 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-429 Unlikely analogy between hockey brawls and medical ghostwriting, but oddly enough, it fits brilliantly.

The bottom line: if something is important, it will get done. If it isn’t, for whatever reason, it won’t.

Simple.

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By: Jon WP https://ethicalnag.org/2009/10/14/journal-editor-puzzled/comment-page-1/#comment-427 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:12:21 +0000 http://ethicalnag.org/?p=555#comment-427 Puzzled? The only ones who are “puzzled” here are the patients whose doctors read these ghostwritten journal articles and prescribe drugs they read about in these industry-commissioned articles!

The journal editors are not “puzzled” at all, unless they are truly stupid, which I’m assuming they are not. What they are is in collusion with the drugmakers whose financial support they rely on to continue publishing. What a sick relationship this must be.

Love your website.

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