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		<title>By: U.K. Lass</title>
		<link>http://ethicalnag.org/2010/03/06/olympics-myths/comment-page-1/#comment-18900</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is anybody else here in London reading this?  We are hearing nothing except how perfectly fabulous the economonic spinoffs will be with the 2012 Games. I&#039;ve been questioning this for the past two years. Thanks for this essay, it helps to summarize my own concerns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anybody else here in London reading this?  We are hearing nothing except how perfectly fabulous the economonic spinoffs will be with the 2012 Games. I&#8217;ve been questioning this for the past two years. Thanks for this essay, it helps to summarize my own concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: David in Vancouver</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eric Kendall,

Do you really believe everything you read when you parrot all these claims about venues being built on time and on budget? Do you know that the Auditor-General of Canada has &#039;certified&#039; that every CANDU nuclear generating project built by AECL has been completed &quot;on time and on budget&quot;. If you know that industry, you can only conclude that if you follow the accepted procedures in the accounting and project management fields, you can turn a sow&#039;s ear into a silk purse!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Kendall,</p>
<p>Do you really believe everything you read when you parrot all these claims about venues being built on time and on budget? Do you know that the Auditor-General of Canada has &#8216;certified&#8217; that every CANDU nuclear generating project built by AECL has been completed &#8220;on time and on budget&#8221;. If you know that industry, you can only conclude that if you follow the accepted procedures in the accounting and project management fields, you can turn a sow&#8217;s ear into a silk purse!</p>
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		<title>By: University Guide</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Kendall</title>
		<link>http://ethicalnag.org/2010/03/06/olympics-myths/comment-page-1/#comment-785</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The relentless search for objectivity.

Jette:
&quot;academic experts who study mega-sports events in a dispassionate scientific fashion&quot;.

I&#039;d say good luck with finding academic experts who study and report anything in a dispassionate scientific fashion.

Comparing Vancouver with Montréal is obviously ridiculous, comparing it with Athens is also ridiculous, as it is with many others. Calgary comes close but they didn&#039;t get a train from the city to the airport, which is immediately busy after the Games and the Sea to Sky highway to Whistler has had no complainers either. The security costs were incredibly high but most of that was paid by the federal government and 40% of what went to individual police and military staff will come back to them as income taxes.

Szymanski is based in London and with their projections of costs from $14 - 20 billion it is simply not comparable and that is what Szymanski is contemplating and anticipating.

Vancouver&#039;s venues and infrastructure were built on-time and on-budget, another weird first perhaps. VANOC may well go down in history as the one to attempt to emulate - except, of course, by the tiny group of Negative-About-Everything &#039;Naesayers&#039; that haunt a few crannies of BC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The relentless search for objectivity.</p>
<p>Jette:<br />
&#8220;academic experts who study mega-sports events in a dispassionate scientific fashion&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say good luck with finding academic experts who study and report anything in a dispassionate scientific fashion.</p>
<p>Comparing Vancouver with Montréal is obviously ridiculous, comparing it with Athens is also ridiculous, as it is with many others. Calgary comes close but they didn&#8217;t get a train from the city to the airport, which is immediately busy after the Games and the Sea to Sky highway to Whistler has had no complainers either. The security costs were incredibly high but most of that was paid by the federal government and 40% of what went to individual police and military staff will come back to them as income taxes.</p>
<p>Szymanski is based in London and with their projections of costs from $14 &#8211; 20 billion it is simply not comparable and that is what Szymanski is contemplating and anticipating.</p>
<p>Vancouver&#8217;s venues and infrastructure were built on-time and on-budget, another weird first perhaps. VANOC may well go down in history as the one to attempt to emulate &#8211; except, of course, by the tiny group of Negative-About-Everything &#8216;Naesayers&#8217; that haunt a few crannies of BC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jette</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d rather pay attention to academic experts who study mega-sports events in a dispassionate scientific fashion than to the ra-ra-ra boosters who are buying into the gushing press releases of VANOC. The former are credible resources for those of us who are sincerely interested in just finding out the facts as they happen around the world in other host cities.  Thanks so much for helping the average B.C. taxpayer sort this all out now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather pay attention to academic experts who study mega-sports events in a dispassionate scientific fashion than to the ra-ra-ra boosters who are buying into the gushing press releases of VANOC. The former are credible resources for those of us who are sincerely interested in just finding out the facts as they happen around the world in other host cities.  Thanks so much for helping the average B.C. taxpayer sort this all out now.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Kendall</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Kendall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Serial Kvethchers Unite! You certainly have rounded up the usual suspects in your précis. But Dr. Stefan Szymanski may be wrong when he yaps on about speed skating. Apparently there were many young boys and girls inspired when the Canadian couple took the Gold, first time for North Americans, in skate dancing. Nevertheless, the Richmond Oval will not be demolished, it will be transformed into a multi-use facility, no speed skating, and community centre including a gym and they are quite popular everywhere. The land Richmond sold around the Oval to finance the construction also means that it didn&#039;t cost the taxpayers of Richmond a nickel.

I could go on but for those ideologues that have drunk the bathwater I&#039;d be wasting my energy.

You might want to check out Clara Hughes. She was a troubled child that was into drugs and alcohol and, on seeing the Calgary Olympics, decided to change her life. Clara is from Winnipeg and she is is one of only five people who have won medals in both the Summer and Winter Games, and is the only person ever to have won multiple medals in both.

She keeps donating thousands of dollars (from the corporate nasties) that she wins to programmes for children and youth. 

Much more inspiring and encouraging than the negative complaining from the anti-horde that keep going on about Vancouver Olympic costs, as though a transit system to the airport, an improved highway, a new and fully booked new convention centre and multiple community sports and cultural centres were not wanted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serial Kvethchers Unite! You certainly have rounded up the usual suspects in your précis. But Dr. Stefan Szymanski may be wrong when he yaps on about speed skating. Apparently there were many young boys and girls inspired when the Canadian couple took the Gold, first time for North Americans, in skate dancing. Nevertheless, the Richmond Oval will not be demolished, it will be transformed into a multi-use facility, no speed skating, and community centre including a gym and they are quite popular everywhere. The land Richmond sold around the Oval to finance the construction also means that it didn&#8217;t cost the taxpayers of Richmond a nickel.</p>
<p>I could go on but for those ideologues that have drunk the bathwater I&#8217;d be wasting my energy.</p>
<p>You might want to check out Clara Hughes. She was a troubled child that was into drugs and alcohol and, on seeing the Calgary Olympics, decided to change her life. Clara is from Winnipeg and she is is one of only five people who have won medals in both the Summer and Winter Games, and is the only person ever to have won multiple medals in both.</p>
<p>She keeps donating thousands of dollars (from the corporate nasties) that she wins to programmes for children and youth. </p>
<p>Much more inspiring and encouraging than the negative complaining from the anti-horde that keep going on about Vancouver Olympic costs, as though a transit system to the airport, an improved highway, a new and fully booked new convention centre and multiple community sports and cultural centres were not wanted.</p>
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